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โธ 3mo ago
Yeah, probably not a bad idea with all the pretty important updates in 1.2.5. It's done :)
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โธ 3mo ago
It would be nice to have something, because from the outside it just looks like reticulum
is a dead project. I understand the animosity toward github. But there are alternatives,
and right now there is nowhere to report bugs or look over current issues when you are
getting started, or share solutions. Having development occur on reticulum itself is neat
and all, but it isn't callaborative and is yet another barrier to entry. I spent over a
day trying to get an rnode working on a very popular lora device, just to find an issue
in the python code of rns itself. If I struggled that much, normal users are just going
to give up. They certainly aren't going to waste time trying to hunt down which magical
realm on reticulum they can report the issue. After a couple of days of messing with
this, I am just burned out. And I am technically competent. I can fix the issue locally,
and write a script to patch the code on updates, but it would be nice to share this
information with other people. This just doesn't feel like a community that wants to
grow. At this point I think I am just done.
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โธ 3mo ago
throwing it out there that codeberg [https://codeberg.org/] could be a a middle ground
location for the code to live on the clear net, and solves the problem of collaboration.
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โธ 3mo ago
A barrier is good for many reasons, and I personally like it. It forces people to put in
the effort. There are plenty of threat actors and disruption efforts ongoing, and some
target the mind, so developers should protect themselves. My Gitea instance at
git.quad4.io, with a few public repos, is constantly getting hammered by bots and
scrapers to the point where it sometimes becomes unusable. I am tired of tuning fail2ban,
and I am not interested in these javascript PoW or WAFs as they just cause other issues.
The best solution by far is rngit, it is lighter and easier to setup multiple rngit
instances for redundancy.
Numerous people have reported issues to me over LXMF and some have submitted patches.
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โธ 3mo ago
ooo, the input fields are not great when a light theme is used.. .. anyway - excuse any
spelling..
I maintain the openbsd ports, ideally there will be releases on pip that continue ..
alternatively maybe an official "http" thing can be exposed. .. baring that.. I guess I
could mirror the release files on one of my servers (i host files for a few othre ports
atm)
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โธ 3mo ago
qbit, can the openbsd packaging system use the source tarballs from pip? I'll keep
pushing releases there, so I can push the tarballs as well. The only thing I'm kind of
iffed out about is that I have no way to upload release signatures via pip, unless
there's some kind of way I've missed that allows you to sign whl files. It's always
annoyed me that you can't do that.
Is there no way for the openbsd port to pull something via RNS itself and check the rsg
signatures? Or what are the requirements actually? Sorry, I have no clue about how
openbsd packaging works ;) I can set up something if there's a way.
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โธ 3mo ago
Completely agree there Ivan, having some sort of barrier to entry is a good thing,
especially when you're the one on the receiving end of a lot of nonsense and bs that the
public doesn't see. True that, on targeting the mind.
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โธ 3mo ago
Mark wrote:
> Completely agree there Ivan, having some sort of barrier to entry is a good thing,
especially when you're the one on the receiving end of a lot of nonsense and bs that
the public doesn't see. True that, on targeting the mind.
With all due respect, I don't gatekeeping reticulum, which becomes more powerful as a
concept the more people use it, simply because of a few bad apples, is a good idea. I
understand having attention and having people scream at your face every day is fucking
tough, I've dealt with this before, but that should prevent people from taking real
utility at something that I believe could be useful and powerful. The "negative"
attention you speak of eventually nurtures into something time and effort, but not if you
have a jaded attitude and try to tear it down.
If you can't personally deal with that and want to be left alone, that's fine, nobody
would blame you for that. If you just want to have some trusted people occasionally send
you emails about anything important for your mental health, that's fine. If you want to
ignore everything random people send you, that's fine, their not entitled to your brain
cause they send you something.
Now here's my 2 month lurker opinion that I'm trying to be genuine with but I may be
entirely wrong about. I think you've made yourself the main failure point for this
project and I see your name being thrown around more frequently than reticulum itself. if
anything breaks, if there's any issues, you end up being the person solely responsible,
having to do every little chore and respond to every little critic and have to implement
every single feature is obviously gonna wear you down like it has. You make yourself
responsible problem and every ill-written app based on reticulum if it's actually your
responsibility or not, Humans are not built for that stuff. You cannot truly back away
because for better or for worse you might the only person who actually understands the
entire codebase and edit it, and pawning off your own health is the only to get things
done. Micromanaging everything just doesn't work for you. But you just don't have to do
that anymore if you don't want to.
*in my uninformed opinion* the main thing lacking from reticulum is the
documentation (be it of the implementation and how to build ontop of it), it's not
impossible right now, but functionality of how the network works already took me a few
weeks to understand (some examples would have been nice), making things harder by not
really having any good starting places to make software, well, that's how you get people
vibe coding entire programs. Plus it's a good force multiplier, you answering a common
issue once prevents you from having to answer it 100 times and lets 10000 people build on
top of it. The main domain of stuff that needs doing is software to built on top of the
protocol to give it real utility. Hell I mentioned wanting to write in the wiki earlier
because I see that as a big issue, that no matter how cool and resistant the protocol is,
if it takes 5 months to build anything, nobody will ever use it. But I want it to be
used, I want to build stuff on top of it because I think it's neat, I think it's good
software and I think I could actually help people one way or another. Wanting a higher
barrier of access is the exact opposite of this, it doesn't bring less "negative"
attention, it just snuffs out the "good" attention that could have turned into something
great.
I'm sorry people made you feel this way about reticulum. There's not much else I can say.
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โธ 3mo ago
And people who have the skillsets to troubleshoot, triage issues, write documentation,
etc., are never going to find a way to contribute because the project has decided to
erect "barriers of entry." This is how good open sources ideas die. But I digress, I have
no vested interest in the project or how it works. If anyone cares to tell someone who
actuall knows a gatekeeper, there is an issue in RNodeInterface.py that impacts Linux and
Heltec v2 devices - maybe others using CP210x but I don't see any point in making the
effort to do more testing. It is apparent us unwashed masses are unwanted. The serial
port is opened with dsrdtr=False but the driver in Linux is going call DTR regardless.
Adding self.serial.dtr = False and self.serial.rts = False after the self.serial stanza
resolves it. If it isn't a true bug, then someone should probably post something in the
rnode guide, because the heltec v2 fails in way that is going to be cryptic to a user. If
you still want those.
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I share a lot of the concerns and some of the frustration that others have expressed in
this thread. I would really like to better understand if there is any community
involvement desired in the future of Reticulum. Mark I truly admire what you have built,
and I deeply respect your decisions regarding interacting frequently with the public.
With respect, what is the direction you want to take this project? Is it essentially open
source but closed to all outside contributors, suggestions, etc.? As close to closed
source as an open codebase can be? Or are you open to having a larger open source
community working on the project with you? In what ways can all of us support the future
of Reticulum? Obviously you don't owe me a response or answer to any of those things, but
I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. I really want to see this grow as a platform and
splintering at such a huge moment of growth will only hamper everyone's efforts.
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